tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post608194077317823396..comments2024-01-29T03:08:22.174+01:00Comments on - Memoires of a Heroinhead -: Press Interview : Shane Levene on Dennis NilsenMemoirs of a Heroinheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17401281805284793756noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-61694418689251692732014-01-01T11:22:57.094+01:002014-01-01T11:22:57.094+01:00Your stepping stone to fame... Something to "...Your stepping stone to fame... Something to "piggyback" off of (son of victim) and turn into something much better... How did she find you? Is it related to the Martin Bladh show that you were a part of? Regret vs remorse seem to be two different things - regret more related to actions that affect you, remorse related to choices that affected other people. Remorse can probably be "truly" felt, not necessarily a manipulation tool. Far as it being the result of someone's own suffering or perceived detriments to his or her life, even if it's the loss of a relationship - for a lot of people, the selfish motivations behind it are probably not even on a conscious level. Your feelings toward Nilsen, the way that you would even help him if you could - demonstrates a level of maturity most people will never reach, a forgiveness so complete. Most people would harbor some level of resentment, or at least be glad for him to be in prison for life, and certainly would not ever be willing to extend a hand if given the opportunity.eyelickhttp://eyelick25.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-79407278532606854892013-12-30T11:39:18.344+01:002013-12-30T11:39:18.344+01:00I do agree that remorse is an idealistic feeling. ...I do agree that remorse is an idealistic feeling. Remorse, if there is any, comes only because of the realization that you have hurt a loved one. Seeing somebody close to you in pain, brings out remorse if you are human. This remorse cannot be confused for honest regret for doing something wrong. Its just that you feel responsible for pain. Absolut Ruinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786955215978419429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-52876759550390661002013-12-30T04:42:18.772+01:002013-12-30T04:42:18.772+01:00A pleasure to see your words in print, even in new...A pleasure to see your words in print, even in news-form. Hope all is wellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-8459632477405283832013-12-30T03:10:27.495+01:002013-12-30T03:10:27.495+01:00'just didn't have the space'
Yeah lik...'just didn't have the space'<br /><br />Yeah like there's SO much happening in Aberdeen...<br /><br />Remorse/Regret - I suppose the Real Thing is when you truly feel sorry for the person wronged as opposed to yourself.<br /><br />Be interesting to see those emails.JoeMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03821025539339799036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-84783778970910920872013-12-30T02:40:02.016+01:002013-12-30T02:40:02.016+01:00Hey Ben....
Sensible views in a British paper...
...Hey Ben....<br /><br />Sensible views in a British paper...<br /><br />You nearly didn't get to read them! If the Press and Journal had their way they'd have used a few 'select' quotes, giving their readers the stereotypical victim in a few quotes taken out of all context. This was after I had only agreed to do the interview if she could assure me that my replies would be printed unedited and not taken out of context (an assurance she did her best to evade giving.) So when after the interview, after I'd put a lot of time into my replies, when the journalist mentioned using only certain lines (not stating which ones) I told her that was not on, that that WAS taking my words out of context and was unacceptable and that in that case she didn't have permission to publish my words. From there we got into a whole days email exchange where she wanted my permission to use just scraps of my replies, saying that regardless of anything else they just didn't have the space to print the entire interview....<br /><br />Actually Ben, it'd be much easier and clearer if I just edit together and forward you the email exchanges we shared that day. They make pretty interesting reading and finally involved the editor OKaying the publishing of the entire interview. But it was hard work getting it into print and no thanks to the paper.<br /><br />Tomorrow I'll edit together and forward to you the email exchanges I shared with Cheryl (the journalist) and you'll see for yourself the drama which unfolded immediately post-interview and how close it came to never finally being published. In fact I'll send a copy of that exchange to all four of you above. X<br /><br />Memoirs of a Heroinheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17401281805284793756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-76018096502970860472013-12-30T01:58:00.988+01:002013-12-30T01:58:00.988+01:00Hey Joe... I love the Warhol quote and love your n...Hey Joe... I love the Warhol quote and love your new choice of avatar too! It suits you.<br /><br />Remorse: see reply to Kelly. But I certainly agree it exists, I'm just very cynical of where it arrives from and see it more as a selfish emotion. I think regret is something different, but true, honest remorse is very rare. I could write an essay on it as the more I'm typing the more complicated my initial idea is becoming and the more I feel I could expand more on what I want to say. I won't, but it's interesting. <br /><br />Book/Publishing:<br /><br /><b> I don't think he has any real self-awareness. I mean he gets angry when the writer says he used to eat takeaways while boiling the victims' heads. 'No!' he objected.'I was eating toast!' It's comical.</b><br /><br />You've really hit on my point: it's EXACTLY such things as above which are interesting and give a true insight into the man... and every line is kinda like that: full of unintentional insight and actually working counter to what Nilsen himself believes the book will serve. Yes, it is comical, but just that little correction tells us so much more about him than 6,000 pages of his own text will never reveal. So no matter what he has written, or how clever and convincing he believes he is being, it is in his manner of arguing, the way he disputes expert opinion, the way the book is almost written as a response to all the psychiatrists and psychologists who have passed through his head (and according to him got it completely wrong) which is interesting. And, as you know, the moment anyone writes they unintentionally give their soul away (not in the meaning of the text, but in the way in which it is written and what is emphasised or given importance by the writer and what enrages him and pulls out angry tirades, etc.)<br /><br />Cats cradle (under loop): see reply to Ben too... XMemoirs of a Heroinheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17401281805284793756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-79258437247054945542013-12-30T01:20:35.391+01:002013-12-30T01:20:35.391+01:00Hey Stacy... and great to see you still around an...Hey Stacy... and great to see you still around and that you're not a fair-weather friend as some of the people who come here. <br /><br />You'll also be directed to my reply to Ben (_Black _Acrylic).<br /><br />Hope All's Well, Stacy... Love and Thoughts as Ever, Shane. XMemoirs of a Heroinheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17401281805284793756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-31149271200611800032013-12-30T01:16:19.435+01:002013-12-30T01:16:19.435+01:00Hey Kelly... Oh, such posts never get much feedbac...Hey Kelly... Oh, such posts never get much feedback. I think in many ways there's not too much to say and a lot of people won't know where to begin when they first come across my views. The journalist and paper had a similar reaction (but for that read my reply to Ben as I'll cover the drama post-interview in that reply.)<br /><br />I think remorse is an abstract emotion, easy to identify with mentally but very difficult to explain in words. I still think it's mostly a selfish emotion, that mostly arises only becaue we eventually suffer ourselves from our actions. So the remorse is not really a 'remorse' towards someone else, but a remorse which arises out of a desire not to now be suffering for our crimes/behaviours. So I think it is mostly borne from the negative effects our behaviour eventually has upon ourself... it's our own suffering that has brought it about and not the suffering of the receiver of our behaviour. <br /><br />Uh Oh... I can see a cats cradle of replies forming, as where I directed you down to my (as yet unwritten) reply to Ben I'll then be directing Joe M up here as this response is relevant to his comment. XMemoirs of a Heroinheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17401281805284793756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-60546694845708555472013-12-30T00:29:37.816+01:002013-12-30T00:29:37.816+01:00Well, I never thought I'd read such sensible v...Well, I never thought I'd read such sensible views expressed in a British newspaper. Seriously though, this is brilliant._Black_Acrylichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01137482556870612454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-86117892224071705212013-12-30T00:07:02.158+01:002013-12-30T00:07:02.158+01:00I think there is such a thing as remorse. People c...I think there is such a thing as remorse. People change. You can be remorseful about your behaviour when you were younger. Whether or not Nilsen really feels it - apart from the fact that he wouldn't be in jail but for his actions - we'll probably never know. But as Shane has said - he's never going to be released any way.<br /><br />I'm more FOR the book being published than not. It's always interesting to see how people justify their lives. I don't think he's going to turn anyone into a serial killer or anything. Going by the extracts in the recent biography I don't think he has any real self-awareness. I mean he gets angry when the writer says he used to eat takeaways while boiling the victims' heads. 'No!' he objected.'I was eating toast!' It's comical.<br /><br />He comes up with all these completely unconvincing 'nurture' excuses. But he had a very ordinary upbringing. In the end I just think he had, to paraphrase Andy Warhol, too many serial killer genes.JoeMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03821025539339799036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-77045105715365502382013-12-29T18:31:50.420+01:002013-12-29T18:31:50.420+01:00Thank you for posting this insightful interview! H...Thank you for posting this insightful interview! Hope you are well. XXX<br /><br />StacyStacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02731385456944016340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9193316819499446317.post-36032370682335089472013-12-29T17:15:35.057+01:002013-12-29T17:15:35.057+01:00Where is everyone??? Christmas is over! No?
Ok th...Where is everyone??? Christmas is over! No?<br /><br />Ok then, I'll start... This idea of remorse and how you'd define it led me to look it up in the dictionary (even though I know what it means). Is remorse the same as regret or guilt? Maybe not, maybe it's something that encompasses those values but is done on a public platform to reinforce others ideals and demands a little sprinkling of humiliation to make everyone completely satisfied by its 'authenticity'. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com